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 ====== Notion alternative evaluations ====== ====== Notion alternative evaluations ======
-Notion is a fantastic app, but it doesn't have a self-hosted version, which is a big turn-off for me.+Notion is a fantastic app, but it doesn't have a self-hosted version, which is a big turn-off for us. We have read somewhere that a self-hosted version was at one point on the roadmap, but it's nowhere to be seen now. 
  
 https://selfh.st/alternatives/notion/ https://selfh.st/alternatives/notion/
  
 ===== AppFlowy ===== ===== AppFlowy =====
 +The main dealbreaker of AppFlowy is its lack of easily-deployed web frontend. One may exist, but it will require [[https://github.com/AppFlowy-IO/AppFlowy/tree/main/frontend/appflowy_web_app|some manual effort]]. Others have moved to have the web app bundled with the main cloud image, but who knows when that will happen. 
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 Pros: Pros:
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 +  * database entries can have text bodies
  
 Cons: Cons:
  
-  * a real pain to set up authentication +  * a real pain to set up authentication <del>(might be easier now that we have Keycloak)</del> 
-  * no web interface / **no public sharing**+  * database entries cannot be linked to directly (making it impossible to reference reading list entries)
  
 ===== AFFiNE ===== ===== AFFiNE =====
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 Pros: Pros:
  
-  * no OpenID backend required --- just an email and password+  * no OpenID backend required --- just an email (no verification necessary) and password
   * edgeless mode (haven't really dug into it yet, but I can see the potential)   * edgeless mode (haven't really dug into it yet, but I can see the potential)
  
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   * still a lot of development work to go   * still a lot of development work to go
   * login not required to access the demo workspace (could be a security or storage issue, but it's unclear)   * login not required to access the demo workspace (could be a security or storage issue, but it's unclear)
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 ===== Outline ===== ===== Outline =====
 +Not quite adequate for what we want. It lacks the object types that we want, and OIDC was such a pain to set up (though now we have a Keycloak instance, and we're not taking it down...).
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 https://github.com/outline/outline/discussions/6155#discussioncomment-7571518 https://github.com/outline/outline/discussions/6155#discussioncomment-7571518
  
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 Pros: Pros:
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 +  * slick interface
  
 Cons: Cons:
-  * even more of a pain in the ass to set up (but now I have a Keycloak OpenID instance) +  * even more of a pain in the ass to set up than AppFlowy 
-  * linking pages is strange+  * linking pages is awkward
   * no databases, simple tables only   * no databases, simple tables only
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